Grose of Luxulyan and Lanivet

GROSE OF LUXULYAN AND LANIVET

There were several Grose branches in the Luxulyan area in the period covered here and some discussion is necessary regarding the identification of certain individuals among others with the same names.

RICHARD AND MARY GROSE

Ten children of Richard and Mary Grose are recorded in the Luxulyan baptisms between 1696 and 1712. Only one marriage for a Richard Grose and Mary in the relevant period and area has been found, that is to say on 1 June 1696 at Luxulyan.[1] However, it appears that not all of the children belong to the same couple. The children are:

1 John Grose, bap 29 Sep 1696, Luxulyan[2]

2 Jane Grose, bap 30 Apr 1699, Luxulyan[3]

3 Mary Grose, bap 17 Jan 1701/02, Luxulyan[4]

4 Nicholas Grose, bap 19 Jun 1703, Luxulyan[5]

5 Grace Grose, bap 29 Jan 1703/04, Luxulyan[6]

6 Mary Grose, bap 5 May 1705, Luxulyan[7]

7 Richard Grose, bap 3 Aug 1706, Luxulyan[8]

8 Jennifer Grose, bap 31 Oct 1707, Luxulyan[9]

9 Ann Grose, bap 25 Jan 1709/10, Luxulyan[10]

10 Stephen Grose, bap 1 May 1712, Luxulyan[11]

Nicholas, Jennifer and Ann can be clearly identified as children of the Richard Grose who was buried at Luxulyan in 1767. Nicholas and Jennifer are mentioned in Richard’s will,[12] and the will of Ann Grose (who died as a spinster in 1764) shows that she was a sister of Nicholas and Jennifer.[13] Some of the other seven children may have died before the 1760s, but for none of them to be mentioned in the wills of Richard or Ann suggests that there was another family of Richard and Mary Grose. This is also indicated by the baptisms in the period 1701 to 1707, which are rather frequent to all be for children of the same parents. In particular, there is an improbably short gap between the baptism of Nicholas on 19 June 1703 and that of Grace on 29 January 1703/04.

A lease of 1725 relating to property in Roskellyn, Luxulyan, indicates that Jane and Grace were siblings[14] and another document shows that John Grose was a brother of Jane.[15] A lease of 1703/04, also relating to Roskillion, indicates that John Grose (then aged about seven) and Mary Grose (aged about three), children of Richard Grose, were siblings. They were two of the lives on a lease, the third being Richard Stadden, aged about seventy-five.[16] This in turn suggests that the Richard Grose in question was the one of that name who was a minor in 1682 when his mother Grace Grose was granted the administration of the estate of Richard’s half-brother Robert Grose. The parties in the administration record, along with Grace, were Richard Stadden and Edward Stadden.[17] Further investigation indicates that Richard, son of Richard and Grace Grose, was baptised in Luxulyan in 1667 and that his mother Grace may have been a Stadden before her marriage.

As well as the lack of apparent matches with his children’s names, the Richard Grose baptised in 1667 would have had to reach the unlikely age of one hundred to be the Richard who died in 1767 who was the father of Nicholas. The latter Richard was, nevertheless, clearly elderly at the time of his death and the obvious candidate baptism for him is the Richard, son of Nicholas Grose, at Luxulyan in 1675/76. A complication with this is that a Richard Grose married an Elizabeth Robbins at Luxulyan in 1707.[18] This may be a later marriage of the Richard who was baptised in 1667. There seems to be a gap in the Luxulyan burial records around 1705 and 1706, so it is not easy to clarify whether his wife Mary died in that period. Richard and Elizabeth appear to have had a son Richard baptised in 1708 and a son Robert baptised in 1711. The latter name being that of a half-brother of the Richard baptised in 1667 perhaps lends some slight support to the suggestion that the Richard who married Elizabeth Robbins was the same man who was baptised in 1667 and had earlier married a Mary.

The Stephen Grose baptised on 1 May 1712 was probably the one of that name buried on 22 July the same year.[19] As he is the youngest of the ten children and both of the preceding two can be assigned to the Richard buried in 1767, chronologically Stephen seems to fit best in the same family as them. This would also fit with the suggestion above about the remarriage of the other Richard Grose to Elizabeth Robbins. The relatively uncommon forename of Stephen could perhaps be a clue to his mother’s ancestry.

The marriage of Richard Grose and Mary on 1 June 1696 of course only relates to one of the Richard and Mary Grose couples, and it appears to fit best with the family of the Richard baptised in 1667. The date and place of marriage of the parents of the Nicholas Grose baptised in 1703 are currently unknown.[20]

JOHN GROSE

The will of Mary (Bridgeman) Grose, dated 29 May 1730, mentions her son John and “his three Children”. However, there were multiple John Groses in the area who could plausibly have had three children in May 1730 and it is not immediately clear which one was Mary’s son.

As Mary (Bridgeman) Grose’s surviving son John was baptised in 1693, his children’s baptisms up to the date of Mary’s will in May 1730 are most likely amongst the following:

John Grose, bap 11 Mar 1718, Luxulyan, son of John and Mary

John Grose, bap 26 Jan 1720, Luxulyan, son of John and Jone

John Grose, bap 19 Jun 1722, Luxulyan, son of John and Joan

Mary Grose, bap 6 Oct 1722, Luxulyan, daughter of John and Mary

John Grose, bap 20 Apr 1723, Luxulyan, son of John and Jane

Joan, bap 6 Feb 1724, Lanivet, daughter of John and Joan

Elizabeth, bap 23 Oct 1725, Luxulyan, daughter of John and Mary

Mary Grose, bap 12 Apr 1726, Luxulyan, daughter of John and Jane

Elizabeth Grose, bap 1 Jul 1727, Roche, daughter of John and Joan

Nicholas Grose, bap 23 Oct 1728, Luxulyan, son of John and Jane

Mary Grose, bap 10 Jun 1729, Roche, daughter of John and Joan

Apparent marriages for these couples are:[21]

John Grose and Mary Halse, 12 Oct 1717, St Austell[22]

John Grose and Jone Collings, 28 May 1718, Lanivet[23]

John Grose and Jane Udy, 11 Jun 1722, Luxulyan[24]

It is difficult to determine which of these Johns was the son of Nicholas and Mary (Bridgeman) Grose as, taking into account child mortality, any of them could possibly have been the father of three children when Mary’s will was written in 1730. The onomastic evidence tends somewhat towards the John who married Jane Udy as they are the only one of the three couples in question known to have had a son called Nicholas, the name of Mary (Bridgeman) Grose’s husband.

Another possible clue is that the 1778 will of Mary, daughter of Nicholas and Jane (Kent) Grose, names her cousin Walter Grose of Luxulyan.[25] If this refers to Walter Grose, son of John and Jane (Udy) Grose, then it would provide some support for the John Grose who married Jane Udy being the son of Nicholas and Mary (Bridgeman) Grose, as the testator Mary Grose was evidently a great-granddaughter of Nicholas and Mary. Unfortunately, there was more than one Walter Grose in the area at the time and it is not certain which of them was being named in Mary’s will, weakening the argument considerably.

The evidence seems to slightly favour the John Grose who married Jane Udy as the John who was the son of Nicholas and Mary (Bridgeman) Grose and he is shown as such below. However, it is currently not a strong case and further clarification would be desirable.

JANE UDY

There was a Jane, daughter of John and Catherine Udy, baptised at Luxulyan on 31 March 1690.[26] However, this is too early to be a plausible baptism for the Jane Udy who married John Grose in 1722 as John and Jane had children baptised in 1740 and 1745.

There were other Grose/Udy marriages in Luxulyan which might be relevant to Jane’s family. Henry and Ann (Grose) (Bridgeman) Udy were married in 1714/15 and William and Jennifer (Grose) Udy were married in 1731. Henry Udy appears to have been a son of John Udy whose will was proved in 1693. The will does not mention a daughter Jane and the chronology does not seem to allow Jane (Udy) Grose to have been a sister of Henry.[27] The parentage of William Udy is unclear. There was a William, son of John and Catherine Udy, baptised in 1697, and a William, son of William Udy, baptised in 1699, both at Luxulyan. In 1743, the William who married Jennifer is called “William Udye the younger of Bodwen”[28] which perhaps lends some support to him being the son of William, but that need not necessarily have been the case. William Udy who married Jennifer Grose apparently had a brother called John as the 1777 will of William and Jennifer’s son John mentions his uncle John Udy.[29]

Nicholas Grose and Catherine Udy were married in 1717 at Luxulyan. Catherine may the one of that name baptised at Luxulyan in 1692, daughter of John and Catherine Udy.

Jane, daughter of George Grose, married William Udy of Luxulyan, and she was granted administration of William’s estate in 1684.[30] The will of George Grose names his grandchildren William Udy, John Udy, Nicholas Udy and Ann Udy. The younger William may be the William Udy whose son William was baptised at Luxulyan in 1699.

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GROSE

1 NICHOLAS GROSE of Lockengate, Luxulyan, Cornwall, yeoman, was buried on 24 December 1643 at Luxulyan.[31] He married on 4 February 1603/04 at Luxulyan, JANE.[32]

Children of Nicholas and Jane Grose:

i ROBERT GROSE, bap 5 Feb 1604/05, Luxulyan,[33] bur 16 Aug 1657, Luxulyan;[34] m JOAN.[35]

ii WILLIAM GROSE, bap 26 Mar 1609, Luxulyan,[36] bur 1609, Luxulyan.[37]

2 iii GEORGE GROSE (bur 1692);[38] m(1) AGNES; m(2) ANN HICKS.

iv WALTER GROSE, bap 5 Sep 1619, Luxulyan.[39]

v AMBROSE GROSE of Luxulyan, yeoman, bap 15 Aug 1624, Luxulyan,[40] bur 21 Mar 1703/04, Luxulyan;[41] m JANE.[42]

2 GEORGE GROSE of Luxulyan, yeoman, was buried on 11 May 1692 at Luxulyan.[43] He married firstly AGNES,[44] who was buried on 28 August 1682 at Luxulyan.[45] He married secondly, on 27 May 1684 at Lanivet, ANN HICKS, daughter of John and Elizabeth Hicks.[46] Ann was baptised on 1 Apr 1662 at Lanivet.[47]

Children of George and Agnes Grose:[48]

i JANE GROSE; m(1) WILLIAM UDY;[49] m(2) 26 Dec 1685, Luxulyan, JOHN WELLINGTON.[50]

3 ii NICHOLAS GROSE (1643-1694); m MARY BRIDGEMAN.

3 NICHOLAS GROSE of Ennis, Luxulyan, was baptised on 19 November 1643 at Luxulyan[51] and buried on 9 October 1694 at Luxulyan.[52] He married on 30 November 1672 at Luxulyan, MARY BRIDGEMAN,[53] daughter of John and Constance Bridgeman. Mary was baptised on 12 January 1651/52 at Luxulyan[54] and buried on 2 November 1733 at Luxulyan.[55]

Children of Nicholas and Mary (Bridgeman) Grose:

i JOHN GROSE, bap 15 Sep 1673, Luxulyan,[56] bur 2 May 1681, Luxulyan.[57]

4 ii RICHARD GROSE (1675/76-1767); m MARY.

iii WALTER GROSE.[58]

iv ANN GROSE, bap 26 Feb 1682/83, Luxulyan;[59] m 26 Feb 1703/04, Luxulyan, NICHOLAS BRIDGEMAN;[60] m 22 Jan 1714/15, Luxulyan, HENRY UDY.[61]

v NICHOLAS GROSE, bap 9 Jun 1685, Luxulyan;[62] m 23 Jul 1717, Luxulyan, CATHERINE UDY.[63]

vi JANE GROSE, bap 23 Nov 1688, Luxulyan.[64]

5 vii JOHN GROSE (bap 1693); m JANE UDY.

4 RICHARD GROSE of St Bennets, Lanivet, yeoman, was baptised on 17 February 1675/76 at Luxulyan[65] and buried on 28 October 1767 at Luxulyan.[66] He married MARY.[67]

Children of Richard and Mary Grose:

6 i NICHOLAS GROSE (1703-1772); m JANE KENT.

ii JENNIFER GROSE, bap 31 Oct 1707, Luxulyan,[68] bur 28 Jul 1788, Luxulyan;[69] m 25 Apr 1731, Luxulyan, WILLIAM UDY.[70]

iii ANN GROSE, bap 25 Jan 1709/10, Luxulyan,[71] bur 21 Oct 1764, Luxulyan.[72]

iv STEPHEN GROSE, bap 1 May 1712, Luxulyan,[73] bur 22 Jul 1712, Luxulyan.[74]

5 JOHN GROSE was baptised on 15 October 1693 at Luxulyan.[75] He married on 11 June 1722 at Luxulyan, JANE UDY.[76] She died about 1776.[77]

Children of John and Jane (Udy) Grose:

i JOHN GROSE, bap 20 Apr 1723, Luxulyan.[78]

ii MARY GROSE, bap 12 Apr 1726, Luxulyan,[79] bur 2 Jul 1777, Fowey;[80] m 29 Jul 1749, Fowey, FRANCIS SLOGET.[81]

iii NICHOLAS GROSE, bap 23 Oct 1728, Luxulyan;[82] m 20 Dec 1752, Madron, REBECCA OLIVER.[83]

iv JANE GROSE, bap 22 Feb 1730/31, Luxulyan;[84] m 29 Apr 1754, Lanivet, JOHN VERRAN.[85]

v ANN GROSE, bap 12 Feb 1733/34, Luxulyan.[86]

vi WALTER GROSE, bap 29 Dec 1736, Luxulyan.[87]

vii ELIZABETH GROSE, bap 22 Apr 1740, Luxulyan,[88] bur 6 Feb 1809, Lanivet;[89] m 18 Jan 1764, Lanivet, THOMAS BULLOCK[90] (see here).

viii HENRY GROSE, bap 8 May 1745, Luxulyan.[91]

6 NICHOLAS GROSE of Lanivet, yeoman, was baptised on 19 June 1703 at Luxulyan[92] and buried on 23 February 1772 at Lanivet.[93] He married on 30 December 1724 at Lanivet, JANE KENT,[94] daughter of Nicholas and Agnes (Robins) Kent (see here). Jane was baptised on 1 February 1705/06 at Lanivet and died about 1773.

Children of Nicholas and Jane (Kent) Grose:

i MARY GROSE, bap 23 Oct 1725, Lanivet,[95] bur 16 Mar 1778, Luxulyan;[96] m 21 Sep 1749, Luxulyan, JOHN GROSE.[97]

ii JENNIFER GROSE, bap 30 Jan 1727/28, Lanivet;[98] m 4 Aug 1757, Lanivet, JOSEPH WARMINGTON.[99]

iii ELIZABETH GROSE, bap 3 May 1731, Lanivet;[100] m 27 Mar 1769, Lanivet, JOHN BROWN.[101]

iv RICHARD GROSE, bap 30 Jun 1733, Lanivet,[102] bur 16 Jul 1733, Lanivet.[103]

v NICHOLAS GROSE, bap 2 Dec 1734, Lanivet,[104] bur 19 Jul 1767, Lanivet.[105]

vi JANE GROSE, bap 4 Apr 1738, Lanivet.[106]

vii RICHARD GROSE, bap 27 Dec 1740, Lanivet,[107] bur 30 Mar 1741, Lanivet.[108]

viii JOSEPH GROSE of Lanivet, yeoman, bap 16 Feb 1741/42, Lanivet,[109] bur 23 Mar 1783, Lanivet;[110] m 17 Jan 1769, Lanivet, THOMASINE THOMAS.[111]

ix ANN GROSE, bap 5 Nov 1744, Lanivet,[112] bur 12 Jul 1779, Boconnoc;[113] m 7 Feb 1764, Lanivet, FRANCIS BRIANT[114] (see here).

x JOHN GROSE, bap 5 Nov 1750, Lanivet.[115]

[1] Luxulyan parish registers.

[2] Luxulyan bishops’s transcripts.

[3] Luxulyan parish registers.

[4] Luxulyan parish registers.

[5] Luxulyan parish registers.

[6] Luxulyan parish registers.

[7] Luxulyan parish registers.

[8] Luxulyan parish registers.

[9] Luxulyan parish registers.

[10] Luxulyan parish registers.

[11] Luxulyan parish registers.

[12] Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7181.

[13] Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7150.

[14] Kresen Kernow, catalogue entry for CL/1/248/10.

[15] Kresen Kernow, CL/1/248/4.

[16] Kresen Kernow, CL/1/248/3.

[17] Kresen Kernow, AP/G/902.

[18] Luxulyan parish registers.

[19] Luxulyan parish registers.

[20] There was a Richard Grosse married at Trevalga in 1701/02 but the bride’s name is given as Joan Earle.

[21] Yet another John Grose of probably around the same age was a tinner of Luxulyan and administration of his estate was granted in 1768 to Nicholas Grose of Luxulyan, tinner, his brother and next of kin (Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7188). This Nicholas is unlikely to be the one who married Jane Kent as John Grose is not mentioned in the wills of Richard Grose or Ann Grose, that Nicholas’s father and sister. More likely he was the Nicholas who was baptised in 1702, son of John and Mary. See also Kresen Kernow, catalogue entry for CL/2/38/94, where the life of a John Grose (age given as 66 in 1762) was dropped from a lease in 1768.

[22] St Austell parish registers.

[23] Lanivet parish registers.

[24] Luxulyan parish registers.

[25] Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7261.

[26] Luxulyan parish registers.

[27] Kresen Kernow, AP/U/70.

[28] Kresen Kernow, catalogue entry for CL/1/250/6.

[29] Kresen Kernow, AP/U/144.

[30] Kresen Kernow, AP/U/53.

[31] Luxulyan parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/G/525.

[32] W.P.W. Phillimore, Thomas Taylor and Mrs J.H. Glencross, eds., Cornwall Parish Registers: Marriages, vol. 8 (London, 1905), 108. Jane was living in 1643 when Nicholas Grose’s will was written. She may have been the Jane Grose, widow, who was buried at Luxulyan on 9 Feb 1673/74, although that was seventy years after her marriage so she would have been very old by then.

[33] Luxulyan parish registers.

[34] Luxulyan parish registers.

[35] Kresen Kernow, AP/G/620.

[36] Luxulyan parish registers.

[37] Luxulyan parish registers.

[38] The will of Nicholas Grose confirms that he was the father of George Grose (Kresen Kernow, AP/G/525).

[39] Luxulyan parish registers.

[40] Luxulyan parish registers.

[41] Luxulyan parish registers.

[42] The Luxulyan parish registers contain baptisms for children of Ambrose and Jane Grose in the 1650s.

[43] Luxulyan parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/G/1047.

[44] She is named in the baptism entry of her son Nicholas.

[45] Luxulyan parish registers, where her name is given as Ann.

[46] Lanivet parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/H/2354.

[47] Lanivet parish registers. Ann appears to have been much younger than her husband George Grose. She may have been “Agnes” Grose buried on 30 Jan 1698/99 at Luxulyan.

[48] Kresen Kernow, AP/G/1047.

[49] The will of George Grose (Kresen Kernow, AP/G/1047) mentions his grandchildren William Udy, John Udy, Nicholas Udy and Ann Udy. Luxulyan parish register entries indicate that these were children of William and Jane Udy.

[50] Luxulyan parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/G/1047.

[51] Luxulyan parish registers; England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.

[52] Luxulyan parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/G/1084.

[53] Luxulyan parish registers. The marriage entry does not give Mary’s surname, but the will of Edward Bridgeman of Luxulyan, written in 1692, names “my Sister mary the wife of Nicholas Grose” (Kresen Kernow, AP/B/2307).

[54] Luxulyan parish registers.

[55] Luxulyan parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/G/5061.

[56] Luxulyan parish registers.

[57] Luxulyan parish registers.

[58] Walter is mentioned in his mother’s will, which shows that he had five children in 1730 (Kresen Kernow, AP/G/5061). A Walter Grose who married Joan Puckey at Luxulyan on 26 May 1715 was probably this Walter. However, there was also a Walter Grose with a wife called Grace in the area around the same time.

[59] Luxulyan parish registers.

[60] Luxulyan parish registers.

[61] Luxulyan parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/U/86.

[62] Luxulyan parish registers.

[63] Luxulyan bishop’s transcripts.

[64] Luxulyan parish registers.

[65] Luxulyan parish registers.

[66] Luxulyan parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7181.

[67] Mary is named in her children’s baptism entries.

[68] Luxulyan parish registers.

[69] Luxulyan parish registers.

[70] Luxulyan parish registers.

[71] Luxulyan parish registers.

[72] Luxulyan parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7150.

[73] Luxulyan parish registers.

[74] Luxulyan parish registers.

[75] Luxulyan parish registers.

[76] Luxulyan parish registers.

[77] Will dated 1 Jun 1773, proved 2 May 1777 (Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7252). Jane was of Lanivet when her will was written. She was probably the Jane Grose buried at Luxulyan on 20 Mar 1777 but there was also a Jane Grose buried at Lanivet on 3 Oct 1774.

[78] Luxulyan parish registers.

[79] Luxulyan parish registers.

[80] Fowey bishop’s transcripts.

[81] W.P.W. Phillimore, Thomas Taylor and Mrs J.H. Glencross, eds., Cornwall Parish Registers: Marriages, vol. 8 (London, 1905), 35. The marriage entry gives the surname of Francis as “Slocket” and in the will of Jane (Udy) Grose, it appears to be “Sloger” or “Sloget”.

[82] Luxulyan parish registers.

[83] Madron parish registers. The entry gives the residence of Nicholas as Lanivet. A Rebecca Grose was a witness at the marriage of Nicholas’s sister Jane Grose and John Verran in 1754.

[84] Luxulyan bishop’s transcripts.

[85] Lanivet parish registers.

[86] Luxulyan parish registers.

[87] Luxulyan parish registers. There was a Walter Grose of Luxulyan for whose estate administration was granted to his brother Nicholas Grose of Lanivet in 1797 (Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7394).

[88] Luxulyan parish registers.

[89] Lanivet parish registers.

[90] Lanivet parish registers.

[91] Luxulyan parish registers.

[92] Luxulyan parish registers.

[93] Lanivet parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7213.

[94] Lanivet parish registers. The entry confirms that Nicholas was of Luxulyan and Jane was of Lanivet at the time of the marriage.

[95] Lanivet parish registers.

[96] Luxulyan parish registers; Kresen Kernow, AP/G/7261.

[97] Luxulyan parish registers.

[98] Lanivet parish registers.

[99] Lanivet parish registers; diocese of Exeter marriage bond.