INGRAM OF LLANSANTFFRAED CWMDEUDDWR

 

The paternity given here for Margaret Ingram is based on the 1851 census returns for Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, where a Richard Bowen, aged 20, born in Radnorshire, is recorded as a nephew of a John Ingram, 46, also born in Radnorshire. This Richard would appear to be the son of Rees and Margaret (Ingram) Bowen. The Bedwellty parish registers give John’s father as Richard Ingram, farmer, in an 1838 marriage entry. Another possible clue to the parentage of Margaret Ingram is the presence of a ten-year-old female servant, Ann Ingram, in the household of Rees and Margaret (Ingram) Bowen in the 1841 census returns. She could be the Ann, illegitimate daughter of Sarah Ingram, who was baptised at Llandegley on 18 April 1831. The 1871 census returns for Cwmllewelyn, Llanganten show an unmarried Sarah Ingram, 73, born at Llandinam, Montgomeryshire, living with Rees and Margaret (Ingram) Bowen. This Sarah died at Cwmllewelyn on 25 May 1877 but the death was registered by a Mary Davies of Cefn y Bedd, Llanganten, and no document has yet been found which states any relationship between Sarah and Margaret (Ingram) Bowen. This Sarah Ingram may have been the one of that who name who in 1841 was living with David Ingram of Tynllidiart, Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr, a farmer. David was born about 1793 at Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr or Llandinam, died on 17 March 1880 at Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr, and married Elizabeth Pugh in 1827 at Llangurig.

 

Another likely member of the family is Richard Ingram of Shoreditch, born about 1802 in Radnorshire (at Rhayader according to the 1861 census returns).[1] A visitor in his household at the time of the 1851 census returns was Mary Ann Bowen, aged nineteen, born in Radnorshire,[2] apparently the Mary Bowen who was a daughter of Rees and Margaret (Ingram) Bowen.

 

There were multiple Richard Ingrams in the area. The Nantmel parish registers include the baptism of Richard (1792), John (1798), Jane (1800) and Ann (1803), children of Richard Ingram. The mother’s name is given as Elinor in the entries for Richard and Ann. Richard, the father, was probably the one of that name who died at Bettws Disserth in 1843 when he was said to be aged seventy-four.

 

The 1851 census returns for Glascwm include a Richard Ingram, 84, born at Nantmel, and his son Thomas Ingram, 53, born at Llandegley. This Richard Ingram married Lucy Duggan at Llanfihangel Nant Melan in 1787.

 

A John, son of Richard Ingram, was baptised at Trefeglwys in 1803.

 

The parish registers of Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr show the marriage of Richard Ingram of that parish and Mary Davies of Llangurig, Montgomeryshire, on 15 July 1788. One of the witnesses was a John Lawrence, which points towards the Richard in question being the Richard Ingram whose sister Martha married John Lawrence at Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr in 1783. The will of David Ingram of Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr, written in 1806, names his son Richard Ingram and his son-in-law John Lawrence.[3] This is of particular relevance as Derek Vincent Davies, a great-great-grandson of Margaret (Ingram) Bowen, has a 12 cM DNA match with a sixth-generation descendant of John and Martha (Ingram) Lawrence.[4] It is not certain that the DNA link is through the Ingrams, but there is no other apparent route for it in this case. This suggests that Richard Ingram who married Mary Davies and who was a son of David Ingram was the Richard Ingram whose daughter Margaret married Rees Bowen. It may be noted that the name David was given to a son of Rees and Margaret (Ingram) Bowen.

 

It seems probable that the Richard Ingram married to Ann Evans was the son of David and Ann (Kenderdine) Ingram of Llanidloes, but there was more than one Richard Ingram in the area at the time.

 

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INGRAM

 

1        RICHARD INGRAM of Llanidloes and Nantmel, Radnorshire, yeoman, died in 1762.[5] He married on 6 May 1726 at Llanidloes, ANN EVANS[6] who died ca 1766.[7]

 

             Children of Richard and Ann (Evans) Ingram:[8]

             2          i           DAVID INGRAM (1727-1807); m JANE LEWIS.

                         ii          RICHARD INGRAM of Nantmel, bap 14 Nov 1729, Llanidloes.[9]

                         iii         WALTER INGRAM, bap 27 Jun 1731, Llanidloes.[10]

                iv         ELIZABETH INGRAM, bap 21 Jul 1733, Llanidloes;[11] m 30 Jul 1762, Nantmel, CHARLES EVANS.[12]

                v          JANE INGRAM, bap 1 May 1737, Llanidloes.[13]

 

2        DAVID INGRAM of Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr was baptised on 27 October 1727 at Llanidloes[14] and died ca 1807.[15] He married on 1 June 1758 at Llangurig, JANE LEWIS.[16]

 

             Children of David and Jane (Lewis) Ingram:[17]

             3          i           RICHARD INGRAM; m MARY DAVIES.

                         ii          JANE INGRAM.

                  iii        MARTHA INGRAM, b ca 1761, bur 12 Oct 1834, Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr;[18] m 26 Sep 1783, Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr, JOHN LAWRENCE.[19]

 

3        RICHARD INGRAM of Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr, farmer, married on 15 July 1788 at Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr, MARY DAVIES.[20]

 

   Children of Richard Ingram:[21]

         i           JOHN INGRAM of Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, coal miner, b ca 1804, Radnorshire,[22] d 10 Sep 1854, Tredegar;[23] m 15 Oct 1838, Bedwellty, MARY COLLINS.[24]

         ii          MARGARET INGRAM, b ca 1806, Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr or Nantmel,[25] d 17 Feb 1878, Llanganten, Breconshire;[26] m 12 May 1828, Llanfihangel Helygen, REES BOWEN[27] (see here).



[1] 1861 census returns, Shoreditch (National Archives, RG 9/237, fol. 173).

[2] 1851 census returns, St Luke, Old Street (National Archives, HO 107/1521, fol. 218).

[3] National Library of Wales, BR1807-17.

[4] Results from AncestryDNA.

[5] Will dated 28 May 1762, proved 5 Jul 1762 (National Library of Wales, BR1762-80).

[6] Llanidloes parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk); Montgomeryshire Marriages and Banns (online at www.findmypast.co.uk). She may be the Anne, daughter of Edward Evan, who was baptised in 1697 at Llanidloes. Ann (Evans) Ingram is mentioned in the 1731 will of Evan Evans of Llanidloes and in the 1748 will of Margaret Evans of Llanidloes. No relationship is stated but the impression given is that Ann may have been a niece of the testators.

[7] Will dated 26 Sep 1765, proved 15 Mar 1766 (National Library of Wales, BR1766-79).

[8] National Library of Wales, BR1762-80, BR1766-79.

[9] Llanidloes parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk); Montgomeryshire Baptisms (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).

[10] Llanidloes parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).

[11] Llanidloes parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk); Montgomeryshire Baptisms (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).

[12] Nantmel parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).

[13] Llanidloes parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk); Montgomeryshire Baptisms (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).

[14] Llanidloes parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk); Montgomeryshire Baptisms (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).

[15] Will dated 20 Nov 1806, proved 19 Nov 1807 (National Library of Wales, BR1807-17).

[16] Llangurig parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk). Jane’s parentage is not clear, but the will of John Davies of Nantmel (National Library of Wales, BR1824-43) mentions the siblings Richard Ingram and Martha Lawrence. No relationship to them is stated, but the testator also names his kinsman Thomas Lewis and the latter’s sisters Margaret Lewis and Elizabeth Lewis, as well as several other individuals who can be identified as children or grandchildren of Edward Lewis of Nantmel who died in 1802. It therefore seems likely that John Davies was related to Richard and Martha through the Lewis family. David Ingram and Jane Ingram are noted as being associated with the Baptist church at Dolau, Nantmel, in 1798: John Jones, The History of the Baptists in Radnorshire (London, 1895), 18-19.

[17] National Library of Wales, BR1766-79, BR1807-17.

[18] Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk). She was baptised “aged 72” at Rhayader on 12 Sep 1833.

[19] Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).

[20] Llansantffraed Cwmdeuddwr parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).

[21] The date of death of Mary (Davies) Ingram is not known and it is unclear whether she was the mother of all Richard’s children. As indicated by the discussion above, Richard most likely had other children in addition to John and Margaret, probably including David (ca 1793-1880), Sarah (ca 1798-1877) and Richard (ca 1802-1878).

[22] 1851 census returns, Bedwellty (National Archives, HO 107/2448, fol. 134).

[23] Death certificate.

[24] Bedwellty parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).

[25] Margaret’s ages and places of birth given in the census returns are as follows: 1851, age 43, born at Nantmel (National Archives, HO 107/2494, fol. 197); 1861, age 55, born at Cwmtoyddwr (National Archives, RG 9/4238, fol. 69); 1871, age 63, born Cwmdaiddwr (National Archives, RG 10/5575, fol. 82).

[26] Death certificate.

[27] Llanfihangel Helygen parish registers (online at www.findmypast.co.uk).